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Subject Re: #1-90, #3-60, #5-90
     
Posted by ZTurboFan on December 20, 2009 at 2:29 PM
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In Reply To #1-90, #3-60, #5-90 posted by Andrewhuffman on December 20, 2009 at 02:02 PM
     
Message I'm a little worried about the cam shaft not being in correct alignment with the gear - which I presume is what happened if the dowel isn't fitting exactly where it is supposed to.
To answer your question - yeah - the car WILL turn over still. The cam shaft being in the wrong position doesn't much matter to whether the engine cranks over or not. You could mis align every cam gear with intent, and it will still crank over, right - as long as the timing belt is on. Hahah. Oh sure, you'll smash the f**k out of everything, but the engine will turn over.

This might have contributed to not actually starting - and also - since the cam presumably was not rotating in time, even though the gear may have appeared to be - you definitely could still have bent intake valves. I'm hoping I'm interpreting your post correctly, in that the cam shaft was rotated 100 degrees even though the cam gear was NOT. If that is the case, you can equate that to mean that the fact the dot on the gear lined up to the timing mark - well - that's no longer relevant at all because the camshaft itself is no longer positioned properly.

I also have a complete set of lifters, which I stored in oil - however - I wouldn't trust them at all. That's just me. Unless they were all nice and squishy - I might throw them in to see if I could save my self some bucks since a new set is about $800USD.

In the vehicle I was telling you about before where the lifters caused ZERO compression in 5 holes - well, those lifters were so f**king hard, I couldn't dream of compressing them with just my fingers, and in fact, I couldn't compress some of them using actual tools! So yeah, all your seized ones get tossed in the pool of fail - or maybe then can become part of project lifter rebuild - if you want to go that route. I don't know if those lifters I'm talking about were like rusted together inside or if they were just so gunked up inside they couldn't do their job. I was in a limited time situation, so I didn't mess around with them, I just got new ones shipped from Seb and Greg at Specialty Z.

But yeah, I would tend to agree that the valves HOPEFULLY aren't bent. The only time I've seen that in the Z was at the drag strip and there were serious engine problems, the valves were smashed at high RPM into the pistons, so compression went to zero immediately - and the impressions of the valves were left in the tops of the pistons. Yikes!

I'd think it would be possible to ever so slightly bend a valve though. And cause lower compression. I think you're on the right track now though with the lifters and you should do simple things like moving lifters from #1 to #3 and see if the compression swaps to prove even further that the lifters are fully responsible. That said, 90 is a bit low still, and it really makes me wish you had a set of brand spanking new lifters to toss in to see the compression results with them...

Good luck.

     
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